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Evolution’s Big Lie Looking Even More Absurd
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Abiel
2015-10-13 22:58:28 UTC
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The Big
Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world, does not
contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires it."

Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls. Your
Pope is not your source for divine truth. You can only trust God's Word
The Bible and only Jesus can save you from Hell.

http://www.chick.com/bc/2007/biglie.asp


"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" Gal.
4:16

When Neil Armstrong guided the lunar lander down toward the surface of
the moon in 1970 he had many concerns. One of those was Cosmologist
Isaac Asimov’s prediction in 1958: “I get a picture, of the first
spaceship picking out a nice level place for landing purposes, coming
slowly downward tail-first and sinking majestically out of sight.”

Asimov had calculated that, if the moon had been around a few billion
years, it would be covered with a layer of cosmic dust several miles
thick. That, of course, is why NASA first sent an unmanned lander that
found, to Asimov’s surprise, only two or three inches of dust. And we
are all familiar with pictures of Armstrong’s footprints in the shallow
lunar dirt.

Evolutionists depend heavily on huge eons of time to allow for all the
happy accidents necessary for life to evolve from the primordial soup.
Yet they keep bumping into evidence that the earth is less than 10,000
years old.

Our explorations on the moon have turned up many types of evidence that
the earth and its moon have not been around the billions of years that
evolutionists claim. The lunar dust is only one item of lunar evidence
confounding the evolutionists.

With modern methods of measurement, scientists have discovered that the
moon is traveling away from the earth at the rate of one and one-half
inches a year. This means that, if it had been around billions of
years, it would have been so close to the earth that it would have been
pulled into the earth by gravity.

The moon rocks brought back by the astronauts also betrayed the old
earth theory. They contained the short-term radioactive isotopes
Uranium 236 and Thorium 230 that would have turned to lead in only a
few thousand years. This, alone, is very important proof that the moon
cannot be older than several thousand years.

Author Vance Ferrell, in his book, The Evolution Handbook, lists
several other facts about the moon that confound the theory of
evolution. The fact that the moon still has significant quakes, lava
flows and gas emissions indicates a young moon. Also significant is
the composition of the lunar soil and the presence of inert gases on
the moon’s surface.

The hard evidence continues to overload the evolutionists’ sinking ship
of faith. To defend their position, they have to resort to shrill
accusations that creationists are just trying to push religion. But
the evidence is piling up on our side.
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting
life. (John 3:16)
W.T.S.-CBA2
2015-10-14 02:18:15 UTC
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"Abiel" <***@GK.H> farted out:

<snip> Total nonsense, why bother to repost? </snip>

PLONK!!! Another loser for the Bozo Bin, end of story, so what else is
new?

Remember: Evolution, absolute truth. Creationism, absolute lie.
raven1
2015-10-14 09:50:27 UTC
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Post by Abiel
In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The Big
Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world, does not
contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls. Your
Pope is not your source for divine truth. You can only trust God's Word
The Bible and only Jesus can save you from Hell.
http://www.chick.com/bc/2007/biglie.asp
A Chick tract? ROTFLMFAO! You'll find more "scientific facts" on the
bottom of your shoe.
duke
2015-10-14 10:30:17 UTC
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Post by Abiel
In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The Big
Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world, does not
contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation of all
things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say working electric
light bulbs are a satanic vision.
Post by Abiel
Your
Pope is not your source for divine truth. You can only trust God's Word
The Bible and only Jesus can save you from Hell.
http://www.chick.com/bc/2007/biglie.asp
Well, there's your problem there. True garbage.

the dukester, American-American

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duke
2015-10-16 10:49:43 UTC
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Post by Abiel
In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The
Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires
it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation
of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say
working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives us the
spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view, there is
not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
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Post by Abiel
Your
Pope is not your source for divine truth. You can only trust God's
Word The Bible and only Jesus can save you from Hell.
http://www.chick.com/bc/2007/biglie.asp
Well, there's your problem there. True garbage.
"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but
unto us which are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)
Exactly.

the dukester, American-American

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Annointed Remnant
2015-10-16 13:28:41 UTC
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Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to the creation of Adam,
which is about six millennia if you add up all the begots and such. It also
gives an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for a few days.
Gordon
2015-10-16 13:49:00 UTC
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Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to the creation of Adam,
which is about six millennia if you add up all the begots and such. It also
gives an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex language, as indicated
in the following Bible passages:

Genesis 2:19-20 (KJV) And out of the ground the LORD God formed every
beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto
Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every
living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and
to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help
meet for him.

There was not yet a woman who had this complex language ability, so
God made arrangements for this genotype to become part of the female
genetic code. We don't know how God managed this but it could have
been something in the form of a horizontal transfer of DNA by a
retrovirus that infected Adam's flat bone (rib) cells and picked up
the DNA that gave Adam this complex speech ability. Then, this
retrovirus could have infected the women who were taking care of Adam
during his illness and in the process, completed a horizontal transfer
of this DNA to the appropriate location on the women's ova.

Just guessing, of course, but I am confident that God managed this
whole process then removed those earlier humans from the gene pool.
Gordon
Elijahovah
2015-10-16 14:07:02 UTC
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Post by Gordon
On 16 Oct 2015 06:28:41 -0700, Annointed Remnant
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Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to the creation of Adam,
which is about six millennia if you add up all the begots and such. It also
gives an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex language, as indicated
Genesis 2:19-20 (KJV) And out of the ground the LORD God formed every
beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto
Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every
living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and
to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help
meet for him.
There was not yet a woman who had this complex language ability, so
God made arrangements for this genotype to become part of the female
genetic code. We don't know how God managed this but it could have
been something in the form of a horizontal transfer of DNA by a
retrovirus that infected Adam's flat bone (rib) cells and picked up
the DNA that gave Adam this complex speech ability. Then, this
retrovirus could have infected the women who were taking care of Adam
during his illness and in the process, completed a horizontal transfer
of this DNA to the appropriate location on the women's ova.
Just guessing, of course, but I am confident that God managed this
whole process then removed those earlier humans from the gene pool.
Gordon
As Abram turned to Ur's king Shulgi and called him DUNGI, you too are a crock of bullshit. YOU twisted like Satan to Eve who said is it not true you cannot eat of all fruit from all trees. HOW SO? because you claim other humans existed before Adam could speak with an IQ. And that other women existed but not yet with this IQ. You totally miss the point written by Moses whose laws are very sexually oriented as they left Egypt. He says that Adam named animals and saw they were male and female, but no female existed for HIM. This means he identified his penis as having an intent for a female that did not exist AT ALL yet. No human females at all. And yet the existence of his penis was a promise there would be one created for him. YET you dare twist it to say he had polygamous sex with many ape-brained women, and found a wife in one that evolved with his own IQ speech. Sorry, you are shit. Like Abram i would leave your town too to get away from you and your church or school.
Annointed Remnant
2015-10-16 14:19:00 UTC
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Post by Gordon
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Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back
to the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia
if you add up all the begots and such. It also gives
an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for
a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which fact is supported by
evidence. The Bible is an account written by ancient people trying to make
sense of life and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is not
beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by looking through a rear view
mirror.
Post by Gordon
There was not yet a woman who had this complex language
ability, so God made arrangements for this genotype to
become part of the female genetic code. We don't know
how God managed this but it could have been something
in the form of a horizontal transfer of DNA by a
retrovirus that infected Adam's flat bone (rib) cells
and picked up the DNA that gave Adam this complex
speech ability. Then, this retrovirus could have
infected the women who were taking care of Adam
during his illness and in the process, completed a
horizontal transfer of this DNA to the appropriate
location on the women's ova.
Just guessing, of course
There are no lack of guesses. What you are doing is taking known information
and postulating a story to fit your agenda, but it's just a fantasy.
duke
2015-10-17 11:56:18 UTC
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Post by Gordon
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Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back
to the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia
if you add up all the begots and such. It also gives
an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for
a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which fact is supported by
evidence. The Bible is an account written by ancient people trying to make
sense of life and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is not
beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by looking through a rear view
mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell if you disobey what God
said. And he hasn't retracted any of it yet.
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as not yet a woman who had this complex language
Post by Gordon
ability, so God made arrangements for this genotype to
become part of the female genetic code. We don't know
how God managed this but it could have been something
in the form of a horizontal transfer of DNA by a
retrovirus that infected Adam's flat bone (rib) cells
and picked up the DNA that gave Adam this complex
speech ability. Then, this retrovirus could have
infected the women who were taking care of Adam
during his illness and in the process, completed a
horizontal transfer of this DNA to the appropriate
location on the women's ova.
Just guessing, of course
There are no lack of guesses. What you are doing is taking known information
and postulating a story to fit your agenda, but it's just a fantasy.
the dukester, American-American

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Annointed Remnant
2015-10-18 00:34:20 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not that sane people have
heard.
Gordon
2015-10-18 00:43:06 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not that sane people have
heard.
How should God have gone about the process of maturing us humans to a
level of understanding that would assure God that none of us would
ever want to go back and mess around with any form of sin and
rebellion, again? Absolute sovereignty, absolute reliability and
immortality are the goals. Pre-programming us as puppets would not
have resulted in any level of sovereignty. Intimidating us into
compliance would not have resulted in any level of sovereignty.
Blocking us from any form of sin and rebellion would not have resulted
in any level of sovereignty. Letting us learn by direct exposure while
Lucifer/Satan calls the shots was/is the only way. Gordon
Mitchell Holman
2015-10-18 01:48:48 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not that sane people
have heard.
How should God have gone about the process of maturing us humans to a
level of understanding that would assure God that none of us would
ever want to go back and mess around with any form of sin and
rebellion, again? Absolute sovereignty, absolute reliability and
immortality are the goals. Pre-programming us as puppets would not
have resulted in any level of sovereignty. Intimidating us into
compliance would not have resulted in any level of sovereignty.
What if one person's sovereignty clashes
with your gods Divine Plan?

Which one prevails?
Gordon
2015-10-18 11:48:32 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not that sane people
have heard.
How should God have gone about the process of maturing us humans to a
level of understanding that would assure God that none of us would
ever want to go back and mess around with any form of sin and
rebellion, again? Absolute sovereignty, absolute reliability and
immortality are the goals. Pre-programming us as puppets would not
have resulted in any level of sovereignty. Intimidating us into
compliance would not have resulted in any level of sovereignty.
What if one person's sovereignty clashes
with your gods Divine Plan?
Which one prevails?
When we all get through this mortal phase we can then share, totally,
all the memories of the sin related experiences of every human that
ever lived. We should have enough insight and understanding to assure
that we will never be in disagreement with God. That is, our sovereign
will shall then be exactly and precisely the same as God's sovereign
will. Gordon
Mitchell Holman
2015-10-18 12:26:47 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not that sane people
have heard.
How should God have gone about the process of maturing us humans to a
level of understanding that would assure God that none of us would
ever want to go back and mess around with any form of sin and
rebellion, again? Absolute sovereignty, absolute reliability and
immortality are the goals. Pre-programming us as puppets would not
have resulted in any level of sovereignty. Intimidating us into
compliance would not have resulted in any level of sovereignty.
What if one person's sovereignty clashes
with your gods Divine Plan?
Which one prevails?
When we all get through this mortal phase we can then share, totally,
all the memories of the sin related experiences of every human that
ever lived.
That doesn't answer the question.
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We should have enough insight and understanding to assure
that we will never be in disagreement with God.
That doesn't answer the question either.
Post by Gordon
That is, our sovereign
will shall then be exactly and precisely the same as God's sovereign
will. Gordon
That still doesn't answer the question.

If there is a Divine Plan then it requires
manipulating people to achieve it, preventing
them from being "sovereign".

If people ARE "sovereign" then there no
Divine Plan is possible and history will run it's
own course.

So which is it?
Annointed Remnant
2015-10-18 12:04:43 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not
that sane people have
heard.
How should God have gone about the process of maturing
us humans to a level of understanding that would assure
God that none of us would ever want to go back and mess
around with any form of sin and rebellion, again?
You're assuming that there is a god, which, of course, no one has ever produced
any objective evidence for such a claim. Ancient superstitions of gods walking
on water and being nailed to a tree, executed, and coming back to life is not
evidence.
duke
2015-10-18 21:27:38 UTC
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Post by Gordon
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Post by duke
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not
that sane people have
heard.
How should God have gone about the process of maturing
us humans to a level of understanding that would assure
God that none of us would ever want to go back and mess
around with any form of sin and rebellion, again?
You're assuming that there is a god, which, of course, no one has ever produced
any objective evidence for such a claim.
So what do you have to be able to profess there is NO God.
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Ancient superstitions of gods walking
on water and being nailed to a tree, executed, and coming back to life is not
evidence.
the dukester, American-American

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Pope Paul VI
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Annointed Remnant
2015-10-18 22:41:08 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not
that sane people have
heard.
How should God have gone about the process of maturing
us humans to a level of understanding that would assure
God that none of us would ever want to go back and mess
around with any form of sin and rebellion, again?
You're assuming that there is a god, which, of course,
no one has ever produced any objective evidence for
such a claim.
So what do you have to be able to profess there is NO God.
So, you don't have any evidence? Don't feel pregnant; no one else has produced
any either.
duke
2015-10-23 10:39:51 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not
that sane people have
heard.
How should God have gone about the process of maturing
us humans to a level of understanding that would assure
God that none of us would ever want to go back and mess
around with any form of sin and rebellion, again?
You're assuming that there is a god, which, of course,
no one has ever produced any objective evidence for
such a claim.
So what do you have to be able to profess there is NO God.
So, you don't have any evidence? Don't feel pregnant; no one else has produced
any either.
Of course I have evidence. 2.2 billion people alive and well today have the
evidence. So what do you have that allows you to say "there is NO evidence of
God"?

the dukester, American-American

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Rubic's Cube
2015-11-30 08:49:39 UTC
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Of course I have evidence. 2.2 billion people alive and well today have the
evidence.
What evidence? What irrefutable scientific evidence do they have?
Jeanne Douglas
2015-11-30 09:01:09 UTC
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Of course I have evidence. 2.2 billion people alive and well today have the
evidence.
What evidence? What irrefutable scientific evidence do they have?
Wow, does poor poor dukie not know that his precious church accepts
evolution as fact?
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2015-11-30 09:14:42 UTC
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Of course I have evidence. 2.2 billion people alive and well today have the
evidence.
What evidence? What irrefutable scientific evidence do they have?
RL and I are working on a Duke dictionary - that will give the definitions
that Duke uses for various words.

Trust me, the entry for "evidence" won't bear any resemblance to either
yours, mine or any other sensible person's definition of the word, nor to
any accepted, standard definition found in any normal dictionary.

You just have to go with it...
--
People who say they'll vote for someone else because Obama couldn't solve
all of Bush's messes are like people complaining that he couldn't cure cancer,
so they'll go and vote for cancer.
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Of course I have evidence. 2.2 billion people alive and well today have the
evidence.
What evidence? What irrefutable scientific evidence do they have?
RL and I are working on a Duke dictionary - that will give the definitions
that Duke uses for various words.
Trust me, the entry for "evidence" won't bear any resemblance to either
yours, mine or any other sensible person's definition of the word, nor to
any accepted, standard definition found in any normal dictionary.
€€ chortle
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You just have to go with it...
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2015-10-18 21:26:15 UTC
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Adam was the first human that could use complex
Humans are part of the evolved great ape family, which
fact is supported by evidence. The Bible is an account
written by ancient people trying to make sense of life
and death. It was beneficial to them then, but it is
not beneficial to us now. You can't drive a car by
looking through a rear view mirror.
You will still spend all eternity in the fires of hell
if you disobey what God said. And he hasn't retracted
any of it yet.
Your impotent god hasn't said anything. At least not that sane people have
heard.
You're INsane.

the dukester, American-American

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duke
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Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to the creation of Adam,
which is about six millennia if you add up all the begots and such. It also
gives an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex language, as indicated
Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting, but a faith accounting. Adam in
Greek/Latin means "mankind" and Eve means "Mother of mankind".
Post by Gordon
Genesis 2:19-20 (KJV) And out of the ground the LORD God formed every
beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto
Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every
living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and
to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help
meet for him.
There was not yet a woman who had this complex language ability, so
God made arrangements for this genotype to become part of the female
genetic code. We don't know how God managed this but it could have
been something in the form of a horizontal transfer of DNA by a
retrovirus that infected Adam's flat bone (rib) cells and picked up
the DNA that gave Adam this complex speech ability. Then, this
retrovirus could have infected the women who were taking care of Adam
during his illness and in the process, completed a horizontal transfer
of this DNA to the appropriate location on the women's ova.
Just guessing, of course, but I am confident that God managed this
whole process then removed those earlier humans from the gene pool.
Gordon
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2015-10-18 00:26:03 UTC
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Post by Annointed Remnant
Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back
to the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia
if you add up all the begots and such. It also gives
an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for
a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting, but a faith
accounting. Adam in Greek/Latin means "mankind" and
Eve means "Mother of mankind".
It wasn't written in Greek or Latin.
duke
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Post by Annointed Remnant
Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back
to the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia
if you add up all the begots and such. It also gives
an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for
a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting, but a faith
accounting. Adam in Greek/Latin means "mankind" and
Eve means "Mother of mankind".
It wasn't written in Greek or Latin.
Whatever the "original" word was, the knowledgeable translation by the Greek and
Latin writers was "mankind and mother of mankind".

the dukester, American-American

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2015-10-18 16:07:21 UTC
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Post by Annointed Remnant
Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back
to the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia
if you add up all the begots and such. It also gives
an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for
a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting, but a faith
accounting. Adam in Greek/Latin means "mankind" and
Eve means "Mother of mankind".
It wasn't written in Greek or Latin.
Whatever the "original" word was
Look, idiot, if you don't even know what language the original text was written
in, why should anyone take you for anything but a fool?
duke
2015-10-18 21:28:20 UTC
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Post by Gordon
On 16 Oct 2015 06:28:41 -0700, Annointed Remnant
Post by Annointed Remnant
Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back
to the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia
if you add up all the begots and such. It also gives
an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for
a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting, but a faith
accounting. Adam in Greek/Latin means "mankind" and
Eve means "Mother of mankind".
It wasn't written in Greek or Latin.
Whatever the "original" word was
Look, idiot, if you don't even know what language the original text was written
in, why should anyone take you for anything but a fool?
Which means you don't get it.

the dukester, American-American

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2015-10-18 22:44:19 UTC
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Post by Annointed Remnant
Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back
to the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia
if you add up all the begots and such. It also gives
an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for
a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting, but a faith
accounting. Adam in Greek/Latin means "mankind" and
Eve means "Mother of mankind".
It wasn't written in Greek or Latin.
Whatever the "original" word was
Look, idiot, if you don't even know what language the
original text was written in, why should anyone take
you for anything but a fool?
Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Justin Kase
2015-10-22 00:09:36 UTC
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide. He lies and
bullshits and and then runs away when he feels he can't best someone, or
someone really bests him. I saw it happen numerous times... he declares
himself and winner and ignores the person from then on rather than be
exposed.
--
Watchtower's failed predictions proving them false prophets.
http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
duke
2015-10-24 11:22:19 UTC
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.

the dukester, American-American

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2015-10-24 13:43:09 UTC
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
duke
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have? I think you already have tucked your tail
between your legs. An anointed remnant should know AT LEAST something.

the dukester, American-American

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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me."
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me."
€€ chortle. Anyone who defends homosexual pedophile priests should be
considered to be essentially brain-dead.
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a
fucking moron.
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Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a
thing. You
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Post by Annointed Remnant
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will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with
me. I can
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teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me."
€€ chortle. Anyone who defends homosexual pedophile priests should be
considered to be essentially brain-dead.
actually they should be locked up..
•RLMeasures
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On 24 Oct 2015 06:43:09 -0700, Annointed Remnant
says...
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says...
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a
fucking moron.
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Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a
thing. You
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will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide. =20
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber. =20
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot =
support his
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assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with
me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?=20
=20
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me." =20
=E2=82=AC=E2=82=AC chortle. Anyone who defends homosexual pedophile =
priests should be
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considered to be essentially brain-dead.
actually they should be locked up..
€€ Locking up a RC Bishop is unheard of.
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me."
Ok, so you were joking. Of course, I well knew that all along.

the dukester, American-American

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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me."
Ok, so you were joking. Of course, I well knew that all along.
So, you've now stopped foaming at the mouth, have you?
duke
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me."
Ok, so you were joking. Of course, I well knew that all along.
So, you've now stopped foaming at the mouth, have you?
Your bluff was blunted.

the dukester, American-American

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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me."
Not possible. old dookie poop is on his last leg, I predict that he
will have a heart attack within the next year or so...
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Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Duke has been on these groups for many years and hasn't learned a thing. You
will soon see his mind is as closed as a clam at low tide.
He's seriously low IQ, only capable of childish jabber.
I kick your butt on a regular basis. Heeheehee.
Pretty typical childish response from an individual who cannot support his
assertions. If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me. I can
teach you a few things.
Here I am. What do you have?
"If you ever grow up or educate yourself, get back with me."
Not possible. old dookie poop is on his last leg, I predict that he
will have a heart attack within the next year or so...
Waiting on him to teach me something. You're right. I may die before he can
do it.

the dukester, American-American

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Post by duke
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back
to the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia
if you add up all the begots and such. It also gives
an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for
a few days.
Adam was the first human that could use complex
Gen 1-11 is not a scientific accounting, but a faith
accounting. Adam in Greek/Latin means "mankind" and
Eve means "Mother of mankind".
It wasn't written in Greek or Latin.
Whatever the "original" word was
Look, idiot, if you don't even know what language the
original text was written in, why should anyone take
you for anything but a fool?
Which means you don't get it.
I'm sorry. I shouldn't have called you an idiot; you're a fucking moron.
Well, that still leaves me at least one step above you.

the dukester, American-American

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All original pagan lengths of worlds also add up to 6000. The Hindu sequence 4800 and 3600 and 2400 and 1200. They claim the 1200 to be 432,000 years (from Noah's Flood 3102bc) not a cycle of 432,000 days. Then the sequence is also a mistake of two formulas as Adam's year 3600am +2400 (in 1900bc ending 500 AD) and then 1200 years later as Adam's year 4800am +1200 (in 700bc ending 500 AD).

Likewise Msolem Flood 3122bc is 8 years before Mayan Flood 3114bc. And both have their Christ Mohammad in 622AD and Ahau Pacal Votan (Lord Shield Heart) in 630AD. The Maya actually list the cycles of Mars and Venus in this 3744 years which means they regard the Flood as Adam's year 2256am.

EVERY pagan chronology of time and world CREATION (by Noah's Flood) to world destruction predicted is 6000. The Mayan 5200 of 360-day from Flood 3114bc to 2012 AD is a 1456-year extension of the 6000 when their end did not come in 630 AD. In fact it mimicks the reverse of Greek Christ where 5200bc Adam to 800AD Catholic king of France thus suggests 800 years before Mayan Flood because it is 5200 years after to their Armageddon. In essence what somes up is Romans 3:4 that every man is a liar when the day comes that God proves his every word true. He does this by bringing every dead man back to life, where we learn the lies we said about the past which were not true, and where many predicted lies about the future which also did not come true.
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True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to the creation of Adam,
which is about six millennia if you add up all the begots and such.
Abraham. It's God's story and his story starts with Abraham.
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It also gives an account of a man living in the belly of a fish for a few days.
Prefigures Jesus in the grave for 3 days.


the dukester, American-American

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Abraham. It's God's story and his story starts with Abraham.
This too another crock of shit. And again Abram calls Shulig what he is Dungi the bullshit. Those who say Bible is ONLY spiritual say it is sweet talk for those who are too stupid for real science. NOW you say Abram's story, but again the danger is you allow it to be said all is fake before Abram and this is what many schools do say. Wrong. The bible is the story if human man, and not before it. The days before it are just to say God prepared for man things that demand of the man to be what God wants because it is for the man. That man is both Noah and the father of him long before him known as Adam. Noah becomes father because he listens to God and all others die. The bible is very very much about what way God talks to all of us and how demons are those who lie after listening their own way they wish to hear.
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True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to
the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia if
you add up all the begots and such.
Abraham. It's God's story and his story starts with
Abraham.
It's a fantasy story created by an ancient nomadic tribe.
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It also gives an account of a man living in the belly
of a fish for a few days.
Prefigures Jesus in the grave for 3 days.
It's pure bullshit.
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True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to
the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia if
you add up all the begots and such.
Abraham. It's God's story and his story starts with
Abraham.
It's a fantasy story created by an ancient nomadic tribe.
Oh, then you must be a pagan.
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It also gives an account of a man living in the belly
of a fish for a few days.
Prefigures Jesus in the grave for 3 days.
It's pure bullshit.
Which part?

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True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to
the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia if
you add up all the begots and such.
Abraham. It's God's story and his story starts with
Abraham.
It's a fantasy story created by an ancient nomadic tribe.
Oh, then you must be a pagan.
Actually, I'm not but what has that to do with facts?
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It also gives an account of a man living in the belly
of a fish for a few days.
Prefigures Jesus in the grave for 3 days.
It's pure bullshit.
Which part?
If something is true, it must be repeatable. How many folks do you know who
have lived inside a swimming fish for three days and returned to land unharmed?
It's an allegory, idiot! Same as the creation bullshit.
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True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to
the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia if
you add up all the begots and such.
Abraham. It's God's story and his story starts with
Abraham.
It's a fantasy story created by an ancient nomadic tribe.
Oh, then you must be a pagan.
Actually, I'm not but what has that to do with facts?
Pagan is all you are.
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It also gives an account of a man living in the belly
of a fish for a few days.
Prefigures Jesus in the grave for 3 days.
It's pure bullshit.
Which part?
If something is true, it must be repeatable. How many folks do you know who
have lived inside a swimming fish for three days and returned to land unharmed?
It's an allegory, idiot! Same as the creation bullshit.
How dumb. Do you get it the 3 days that Jesus was in the grave was prefigured
by Jonah and 3 days in the belly of a whale. It's called one of many, many
validations of Jesus 3 days in the grave as prefigured by Jonah.

Foolish guy.

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True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to
the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia if
you add up all the begots and such.
Abraham. It's God's story and his story starts with
Abraham.
It's a fantasy story created by an ancient nomadic tribe.
Oh, then you must be a pagan.
Actually, I'm not but what has that to do with facts?
Pagan is all you are.
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It also gives an account of a man living in the belly
of a fish for a few days.
Prefigures Jesus in the grave for 3 days.
It's pure bullshit.
Which part?
If something is true, it must be repeatable. How many folks do you know who
have lived inside a swimming fish for three days and returned to land unharmed?
It's an allegory, idiot! Same as the creation bullshit.
Do you get it the 3 days that Jesus was in the grave
Where he remains.
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True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
Uh, yes, actually it does. It gives a time line back to
the creation of Adam, which is about six millennia if
you add up all the begots and such.
Abraham. It's God's story and his story starts with
Abraham.
It's a fantasy story created by an ancient nomadic tribe.
Oh, then you must be a pagan.
Actually, I'm not but what has that to do with facts?
Pagan is all you are.
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It also gives an account of a man living in the belly
of a fish for a few days.
Prefigures Jesus in the grave for 3 days.
It's pure bullshit.
Which part?
If something is true, it must be repeatable. How many folks do you know who
have lived inside a swimming fish for three days and returned to land unharmed?
It's an allegory, idiot! Same as the creation bullshit.
Do you get it the 3 days that Jesus was in the grave
Where he remains.
You Jews just don't get it that the Father raised the Son form the grave.

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"duke" <***@cox.net> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
It's called one of many, many
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validations of Jesus 3 days in the grave as prefigured by Jonah.
Anyone in the grave for 3 days is already decomposing and smelling pretty
rank. They don't come back.
--
"True, there have been those in times past who predicted an 'end to the
world,'
even announcing a specific date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not
come.
They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing from
such
people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using
them."
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"duke" wrote: It's called one of many, many
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validations of Jesus 3 days in the grave as prefigured by Jonah.
Anyone in the grave for 3 days is already decomposing
and smelling pretty rank. They don't come back.
Here's one who came back after four (4) days. And you
are correct, the smell was bad.

"Jesus said, "Take ye away the stone." Martha, the sister
of him that was dead, said unto Him, "Lord, by this time
he stinketh: for he has been dead four days." Jesus said
to her, "Said I not unto you that if you would believe,
you would see the glory of God?" Then they took away
the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And
Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, "Father, I thank Thee
that Thou hast heard Me. And I knew that Thou hearest
Me always, but because of the people who stand by I said
it, that they may believe that Thou have sent Me." And
when He thus had spoken, He cried with a loud voice,

"Lazarus, come forth!"

"And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot
with grave clothes, and his face was bound about with
a napkin. Jesus said to them, "Loose him, and let him
go." ~ John 11:39-44
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"duke" wrote: It's called one of many, many
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validations of Jesus 3 days in the grave as prefigured by Jonah.
Anyone in the grave for 3 days is already decomposing
and smelling pretty rank. They don't come back.
Here's one who came back after four (4) days. And you
are correct, the smell was bad.
"Jesus said, "Take ye away the stone." Martha, the sister
of him that was dead, said unto Him, "Lord, by this time
he stinketh: for he has been dead four days." Jesus said
to her, "Said I not unto you that if you would believe,
you would see the glory of God?" Then they took away
the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And
Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, "Father, I thank Thee
that Thou hast heard Me. And I knew that Thou hearest
Me always, but because of the people who stand by I said
it, that they may believe that Thou have sent Me." And
when He thus had spoken, He cried with a loud voice,
"Lazarus, come forth!"
"And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot
with grave clothes, and his face was bound about with
a napkin. Jesus said to them, "Loose him, and let him
go." ~ John 11:39-44
Anything that cannot be repeated can never be verified. It is a cute story but
bullshit never-the-less.
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validations of Jesus 3 days in the grave as prefigured by Jonah.
Anyone in the grave for 3 days is already decomposing
and smelling pretty rank. They don't come back.
Here's one who came back after four (4) days. And you
are correct, the smell was bad.
"Jesus said, "Take ye away the stone." Martha, the sister
of him that was dead, said unto Him, "Lord, by this time
he stinketh: for he has been dead four days." Jesus said
to her, "Said I not unto you that if you would believe,
you would see the glory of God?" Then they took away
the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And
Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, "Father, I thank Thee
that Thou hast heard Me. And I knew that Thou hearest
Me always, but because of the people who stand by I said
it, that they may believe that Thou have sent Me." And
when He thus had spoken, He cried with a loud voice,
"Lazarus, come forth!"
"And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot
with grave clothes, and his face was bound about with
a napkin. Jesus said to them, "Loose him, and let him
go." ~ John 11:39-44
Anything that cannot be repeated can never be verified. It is a cute story but
bullshit never-the-less.
You can't show (repeat) that. It's also contrary to what Jesus said.

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It's called one of many, many
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validations of Jesus 3 days in the grave as prefigured by Jonah.
Anyone in the grave for 3 days is already decomposing and smelling pretty
rank. They don't come back.
God raised Jesus to new life.

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True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the
bible gives us the spiritual answer. Did you know that,
contrary to the popular view, there is not 6000 years
mentioned in the bible.
This answer is the same as saying Science does not contradict the Bible because the Bible is not science. THIS IS A LIE. I hate this answer because the WT published it once and Jehovah and his truth comes before WT. The lover of Jehovah must defy sin no matter who publishes it. The bible is science, the bible is medical, the bible is psychology, it is all those things. YOU fail to see that todays schools and schools 500 years ago, and 2000 years ago. They all swing back and forth from many truths and many lies. It is not a classification that school means truth and bible means lie because it's just spiritual. Are you that stupid that you dont see gay men, and wives taking it in the behind and calling it spiritual positivity and love. Freud said babies poop because things feel good going in and out of the behind. He also said boys want to screw their mothers.

If the Bible isnt science then how come the Mayan Flood counts 3744 years from its Noah 3114bc to its king 630AD the same way Egyptian Genesis counts from Flood 3090bc to 654AD, and the same way Greek Genesis does from Flood 2958bc to 800AD Catholic French king. How is it Moslem count 3122bc Flood to 622AD, all are a Mars calendar and Venus calendar with 12-year Chinese years for 3744 years from a Flood of 2256am of Adam. Mayan Flood 3114bc is 8-year Venus after Moslem 3122bc. How is it that Mayan Adam 2256 before Flood 3114bc is 5370bc so that it is the same 1200-year Venus to 1770bc Hebrew 2256am Hamurabi 600 years after the Hebrew Flood 2370bc. How is it that all these Flood's are not a genealogy game, but of astronomy cycles 780-day Mars 584-day Venus 84-year Jupiter if 360-day but 83-year if Julian sothic. How is it Terah lived a cycle of Mars 205 Julian as 208 of 360-day for 780-day Mars. How is it Babylon is praised during Greeks by todays astronomers for 36-orbit Jupiter in 427 years and yet this is when Abram left after the Flood in 427 years (352+75).

TAKE ALL THIS IN and you will also see the carbon ratio of 6000 years and that it starts 49,000 years ago with light making plants in the ocean.
Did you not know they have recently found dinosaur bones (fossils of mineral rock) that had some actual bone carbon in it which dates 30,000 years?
YOU cant find truth when you bicker. Look at every court game of the USA innocent and criminals both get set free, and innocent and criminals both go to prison for inconsitent years of punishment. A game of what shall we give him, oh let's give Barrabas 3 days, and lets give Jesus death because 90 years life is too good for the creep.
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The
Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires
it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation
of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say
working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives us the
spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view, there is
not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
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"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." (Genesis 1:1)
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Your
Pope is not your source for divine truth. You can only trust God's
Word The Bible and only Jesus can save you from Hell.
http://www.chick.com/bc/2007/biglie.asp
Well, there's your problem there. True garbage.
"For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but
unto us which are saved it is the power of God." (1 Corinthians 1:18)
Exactly.
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The
Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires
it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation
of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say
working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives us the
spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view, there is
not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
I know. I taught you that.

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True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
The Bible is NOT about the dinosaurs have sinned and so they died in the end of the world. The Bible is about man dying. It is about returning man to God, not returning dinosaurs to God. BUT stupid people do try to create doggie and kitty heaven because they hate all humans. Demons come in the many forms of pet lovers and dinosaur lovers who would do anything to save animals and material things at the cost of killing 1000s of people they hate. THEY killed jesus to protect the things they loved more than God, more than other people, more than righteous life. To them GOD is all about what they selfishly want, and kill all the christs who are different than that. The sore thumb of Genesis is the reader who ought not to read anything when he is only a negative critic to all things. MOST people who claim to see the down side, dont see it at all, and they think they see it from looking over and above like God when maybe they should get under something to see its down side. And if we pray maybe it come down on them LOL.
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The
Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires
it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation
of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say
working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives us the
spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view, there is
not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
I know. I taught you that.
€€€ You taught me that Puck was spot-on.
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The
Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires
it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation
of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say
working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives us the
spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view,
there is
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not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
I know. I taught you that.
€€€ You taught me that Puck was spot-on.
There was no boat to put them on.

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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The
Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires
it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation
of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say
working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives us the
spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view,
there is
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not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
I know. I taught you that.
€€€ You taught me that Puck was spot-on.
There was no boat to put them on.
€€€€ How about "The T-rexs kept snacking on elephants and rhinos?
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The
Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires
it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation
of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say
working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible
gives us the
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spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view,
there is
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not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
I know. I taught you that.
€€€ You taught me that Puck was spot-on.
There was no boat to put them on.
€€€€ How about "The T-rexs kept snacking on elephants and rhinos?
Noah is not a scientific discussion.

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Noah is not a scientific discussion.
Jesus thought there was a Noah, and said that the end times would be
like Noah's times.

Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given
in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood
came, and destroyed them all.

Unless you want to say Jesus told a little white lie.
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Noah is not a scientific discussion.
Jesus thought there was a Noah, and said that the end times would be
like Noah's times.
Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given
in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood
came, and destroyed them all.
Unless you want to say Jesus told a little white lie.
Allegorical interpretation is the key, here, and it isn't easy to do.
I'm still working on it, trying to fit all the pieces together.

I think we are very near that end times situation. This planet cannot
continue to support the ever increasing population with the
accelerating depletion of natural resources. When this begins to
collapse it will be allegorically similar to the flood...we will all
be swamped with conditions we can no longer manage or cope with.
Gordon
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I think we are very near that end times situation.
You should become a Jehovah's Witness.
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I think we are very near that end times situation.
You should become a Jehovah's Witness.
€€ Why would he want to follow false prophets?
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I think we are very near that end times situation.
You should become a Jehovah's Witness.
€€ Why would he want to follow false prophets?
He already believes it.
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I think we are very near that end times situation.
You should become a Jehovah's Witness.
€€ Why would he want to follow false prophets?
He already believes it.
€€€ another sucker takes the bait.
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Noah is not a scientific discussion.
Jesus thought there was a Noah, and said that the end times would be
like Noah's times.
Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given
in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood
came, and destroyed them all.
Unless you want to say Jesus told a little white lie.
What evidence do you have that Jesus said anything, or if he even existed? Do
you know that there is absolutely no known contemporary evidence of his
existence? The itinerant rabbi was unknown in his lifetime. The embellished
tales didn't come about until decades after his death.
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Noah is not a scientific discussion.
Jesus thought there was a Noah, and said that the end times would be
like Noah's times.
Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given
in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood
came, and destroyed them all.
Unless you want to say Jesus told a little white lie.
What evidence do you have that Jesus said anything, or if he even existed? ...
• There are still two active warrents for him in Judea, one for assault
and battery of street vendors and the other for exeeding the posted
fishing limit on the Sea of Galilee.
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Noah is not a scientific discussion.
Jesus thought there was a Noah, and said that the end times would be
like Noah's times.
Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given
in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood
came, and destroyed them all.
Unless you want to say Jesus told a little white lie.
What evidence do you have that Jesus said anything, or if he even existed? ...
• There are still two active warrents for him in Judea, one for assault
and battery of street vendors and the other for exeeding the posted
fishing limit on the Sea of Galilee.
I've heard he was into moonshining, too. What a guy!
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Noah is not a scientific discussion.
Jesus thought there was a Noah, and said that the end times would be
like Noah's times.
Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given
in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood
came, and destroyed them all.
Unless you want to say Jesus told a little white lie.
What evidence do you have that Jesus said anything, or if he even existed? ...
• There are still two active warrents for him in Judea, one for assault
and battery of street vendors and the other for exeeding the posted
fishing limit on the Sea of Galilee.
I've heard he was into moonshining, too. What a guy!
•• The 'shine charge was later reduced because He was not distilling,
however the wine He produced was found to contain a whopping 18% ethanol.
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Noah is not a scientific discussion.
Jesus thought there was a Noah, and said that the end times would be
like Noah's times.
Luke 17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given
in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood
came, and destroyed them all.
Unless you want to say Jesus told a little white lie.
What evidence do you have that Jesus said anything, or if he even
existed? ...
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• There are still two active warrents for him in Judea, one for assault
and battery of street vendors and the other for exeeding the posted
fishing limit on the Sea of Galilee.
I've heard he was into moonshining, too. What a guy!
•• The 'shine charge was later reduced because He was not distilling,
however the wine He produced was found to contain a whopping 18% ethanol.
Looking at his faithful followers of today, I believe it must have
been methanol in them jars.
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic lie: "The
Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
does not contradict the divine act of creating, but rather requires
it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my dear
Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the creation
of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon as say
working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible
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spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view,
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not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
I know. I taught you that.
€€€ You taught me that Puck was spot-on.
There was no boat to put them on.
€€€€ How about "The T-rexs kept snacking on elephants and rhinos?
Noah is not a scientific discussion.
€€€€€ There is no geologic evidence of any Great Flood. Before the
writers of Genesis came up with the story, a number of pagan religions had
written great flood stories.
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic
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Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
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it."
Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific
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Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the
creation
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of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon
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working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible
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spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view,
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not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore
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Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
I know. I taught you that.
€€€ You taught me that Puck was spot-on.
There was no boat to put them on.
€€€€ How about "The T-rexs kept snacking on elephants and rhinos?
Noah is not a scientific discussion.
€€€€€ There is no geologic evidence of any Great Flood. Before the
writers of Genesis came up with the story, a number of pagan religions had
written great flood stories.
It is nonsensical to believe that a year long global deluge could have occurred.
That is stretching faith to absurdity.
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In 2014 we heard Pope Francis spewing yet another satanic
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Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the world,
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it."
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Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal souls.
Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the
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of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as soon
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working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
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spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view,
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not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
€€ True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore
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Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
I know. I taught you that.
€€€ You taught me that Puck was spot-on.
There was no boat to put them on.
€€€€ How about "The T-rexs kept snacking on elephants and rhinos?
Noah is not a scientific discussion.
€€€€€ There is no geologic evidence of any Great Flood. Before the
writers of Genesis came up with the story, a number of pagan religions had
written great flood stories.
It is nonsensical to believe that a year long global deluge could have occurred.
That is stretching faith to absurdity.
ۦ Good point and yet many believe it happened. Puck was right.
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Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives us the
spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view, there is
not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
Another crock of shit as Abram labeled his king Shulig by the name Dungi. YOUR bullshit defies God Jehovah (the God who causes to be what he is and he proves it) your crap says that science is the real answer and that SPIRITUAL answers are sweet talk for the stupid. Dont give us that crap because that's your first step to say the bible is lies and not God.
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Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives us the
spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular view, there is
not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
?? True but add the begats up and you get 6000 yrs. The sore thumb in
Genesis is no mention of dinosaurs.
Duke, a fanatic unable to learn anything beyond the brain washing he got as
a child in the church, already claimed they existed in the Garden of Eden,
less than 10,000 yrs ago. They all died in the flood he claimed.
--
For many years the Awake magazine said this as part of their forward:

"... magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and
secure world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away."

Just another lie... How many lies do active JWs have to hear before they
wake
up and smell the coffee? Everyone who was old enough to see the events of
1914
is long DEAD!

Does the WTBTS apologize for lying? Never. They simply continue on as if
their
prophecies never happened, and the JDubs follow along with rings in their
noses
waiting for their promised paradise.
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"The >> > Big Bang, which nowadays is posited as the origin of the
world, >> > does not contradict the divine act of creating, but
rather requires >> > it."
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Oh really Mr. 666? Consider the following scientific facts, my
dear >> > Catholic friends, before it's too late for your immortal
souls. >>
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Before?? Are you suggesting that the scientific FACT of the
creation >> of all things in the big bang is untrue? You'd just as
soon as say >> working electric light bulbs are a satanic vision.
True science never contradicts God's Word.
Exactly. Science gives us the physical answer, and the bible gives
us the spiritual answer. Did you know that, contrary to the popular
view, there is not 6000 years mentioned in the bible.
The genealogies prove it, but you don't care what the Bible says anyway
because you're Catholic. I know that.
Who wrote the genealogies? And the Catholic Church is the Church founded by
Jesus Christ.
Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and
that ye receive not of her plagues. (Revelation 18:4)
Yep, good dream of what Daniel first said.

the dukester, American-American

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The genealogies prove it, but you don't care what the Bible says anyway
because you're Catholic. I know that.
Who wrote the genealogies? And the Catholic Church is the Church founded by
Jesus Christ.
Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and
that ye receive not of her plagues. (Revelation 18:4)
Yep, good dream of what Daniel first said.
YOU imply that Daniel is a prophet and that Jesus is not, and you imply Revelation by John is not. YOU imply that Jesus has no Christian doctrines other than what became Catholic (which though are NOTHING of Jesus). The genealogy shift of Assyrian Samaritans (720bc) ismuch earlier than the Egyptian Genesis and Greek Genesis of 280bc (whose main variance if an existence of Cainan for 130 years). BUT these figures for that Genesis which altered the original Jewish Genesis are based on astronomy and calendars of Egypt 1290bc and Greeks 778bc (based on 1498bc). Both of these is after Moses wrote this book during 40 days in 1513bc. A book that on tablets has been lost so that the rewritten sheep vellum Genesis differs from his first thoughts by God of shattered stone. NO ONE EVER rewrites anything the same. BUT the math figures are not going to change from a Flood of year 1656 with a 35-year Arpaxad, 30-year Shelah, 34-year Eber, 30-year Peleg, 32-year Reu, 30-year Serug, 29-year Nahor, and 70-year Terah leaving Ur at 205 to die at Abram's 48-year old home in Harran Syria. ALL chronologies (THAT MEANS TIME) not mere linguistic genealogy games all branch from a global world connection for someone like me who looks into ALL and so sees ALL. You see nothing not ALL, because you refuse to look at ALL. I have looked at ALL and it divides like a fmaily bickering how to interpret things. BUT time and calendar and math and connections prove JUST ONE WAY and your other interpretations are partial and favor avenues that reject all that you choose or feel to reject. Whether terah was 39 or 70 when Haran was born has its reasons they selected those years. LOOK FIND UNDERSTAND, but you dont because you people think you are god and you are lord, that each man for himself is so, and you do not let it speak. YOU ramble like courts and juries. Just as you did when you killed jesus.
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And the Catholic Church is the Church founded by
Jesus Christ.
If he even existed, he died before he could 'found' anything.
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And the Catholic Church is the Church founded by
Jesus Christ.
If he even existed, he died before he could 'found' anything.
He's the one reason we're 2.2 billion people alive and well today.

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And the Catholic Church is the Church founded by
Jesus Christ.
If he even existed, he died before he could 'found' anything.
He's the one reason we're 2.2 billion people alive and well today.
Alive and well? You're a goddamn idiot!
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And the Catholic Church is the Church founded by
Jesus Christ.
If he even existed, he died before he could 'found' anything.
He's the one reason we're 2.2 billion people alive and well today.
Alive and well? You're a goddamn idiot!
That's the current world population of the Christians in the world today.

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And the Catholic Church is the Church founded by
Jesus Christ.
If he even existed, he died before he could 'found' anything.
He's the one reason we're 2.2 billion people alive and well today.
Alive and well? You're a goddamn idiot!
That's the current world population of the Christians in the world today.
And they're all alive and well? You're a goddamn idiot!
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And the Catholic Church is the Church founded by
Jesus Christ.
If he even existed, he died before he could 'found' anything.
He's the one reason we're 2.2 billion people alive and well today.
Alive and well? You're a goddamn idiot!
That's the current world population of the Christians in the world today.
And they're all alive and well? You're a goddamn idiot!
Yep, that many alive this very day.

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When Neil Armstrong guided the lunar lander down toward the surface of
the moon in 1970 he had many concerns. One of those was Cosmologist
Isaac Asimov's prediction in 1958: "I get a picture, of the first
spaceship picking out a nice level place for landing purposes, coming
slowly downward tail-first and sinking majestically out of sight."
Asimov had calculated that, if the moon had been around a few billion
years, it would be covered with a layer of cosmic dust several miles
thick.
Issac Asimov was not a cosmologist, but he was a very good science fiction
writer, so I'm sure anyone could pick even more intriguing quotes from any of
his fictional stories.
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People rely on destroying evolution so they can prove physical instant creation as a ressurrection of elements to human would require. But what about rapid evolution as in the taking of a body 3 days to grow before it awakes, or 2 years to grow before it awakes. People do not truly see God as science. They always quote the words of Jesus saying Happy are those who do not see and yet believe. But they fail to see what had occurred. Of 11 apostles only ten were there so that Thomas did not see. Thus what Jesus says is very much in line with Happy is mother Eve if she believes Adam without having to see for herself. It is not an issue of i the husband is your God and you must obey me or you are insubordinate. The same with Rebecca who did what jehovah wanted her to, lie to Isaac because for 61 years from age 16 to 77, Isaac had known Esau had sold the birthright and yet agreed with Esau that you cannot sell birthrights. Thus Isaac allowing Esau to lie saying sure give me the soup you can have my birthright. Who was the worse liar, the son who leads the world, or the mother who says let me do the lying, i will dress you up like Esau the way Eve dressed up (prepared) Abel. In the case of both Cain and Esau they did not think that mother knew much about Jehovah.

And so Jesus said Happy is he that beleives the other ten who saw me and does not have to see for himself that it is me alive in flesh. The WT's GB needs to learn from this because it isthe same as saying Happy is the queen who hears her very own messenger with words from her insubordinate cousin Mordecai telling her to comply to jehovah or she will lose her life when Jehovah uses another mother to save all his children. Even Jacob had enough sense to say I have heard enough, i now believe my son Joseph is alive, he rules Egypt, and he is going to feed us all. This is because jehovah's word has always been greater than the bible, and his word has always been more than the Bible. The bible alone is NOT what is meant when it says all scripts of writing from themouth of God are inspired by God and true. Every unwritten word of jehovah becomes written down eventually because people fear the world will forget Jehovah. JESUS definately claimed and predicted that those he taught would lose and forget Jehovah and so that very fact unveils that they would rediscover jehovah thru what is dug up, both written and unwritten because even geology is a word of Jehovah (he does make the rocks talk).

So now how is science true of Jehovah. It does say humans are 6000 years old. The calculations with and without Bible are have stronger more evidence that Adam was created in 4025bc. BUT as in all things you do not see it if you dont want to. Bible studies which are successful by JWs or any church are done so when a person is shown and they believe what they have been shown. This is no different than EVERY school of ANY thing. A lie is believed as easily as truth in the minds of people who cannot explain their truth or their lie. People also believe illusions, natural ones, not just human fabricated lies. if you wish to believe the sun is a basketball that comes out of the land or the ocean, you can definately go outside and point to it. BUT if you wish to know all calendars, all history, all correct ratio curves of time, you can be shown by me that Adam opened his eyes in 4025bc making humans 6000 years old in 1914 except for the fact that this 360-day calendar became insufficent days per year when the asteroid shifted the Earth in 2370bc on Nov 20 as God's word telling Noah start packing the ark before the water lifts it up and comes flowing thru the open door. EVERYTHING in the Bible and on planet Earth is calculable, and yet you people always ignore Earth and insist on calculating the galaxies. Quit thinking you can create a new planet Mars with terforming, when you cannot keep Earth in balance. It is like saying you wish to send your polygamous prostitute wives and prostitute daughters to the next town to build a virgin temple. Physician heal thyself; the liar says Hippocrates is not a hipocrite. BUT even Jesus said YOU will say this of me calling me a charlatan as i do these miracles of healing. SO WHERE IS YOUR FAITH if everything you hear you need to attack as if only you know all answers.

The answer to trusting Jehovah's word is trust science not schools of science. It falls in with the words of Jesus saying Listen to what Pharisees teach you, just do not be hypocrites like them applying their teachings only to others, and only their way. The words have value, but their twists are malice emotions against others to make themselves more righteous. This is the same in ALL schools, medical, technical, electronic, science, etc. With expounding explanataion they talk about bad ego, and ignore that they all have one, a bad one. TV doesn't help, so where are the laws that ought to be on TV.

So an simple example of science trust in jehovah. YOu have a 104 temp which starts brain damage. You either die or become retarded. Faith believes this, fools say this is not true. Jehovah will save me. BUT jehovah saves the one with the cold ice. Now if you make a refridgerator you getyour ice. YOU trust the faith in how Jehovah turns water to ice. BUT even if you throw a fit that some man wants you to glorify him for the refridgerator, know this, that even at the hot equator on a 100 degree noon day, you can send your preferred man (to glorify and thank) up the mountain where Jehovah makes it cold because height is lower temps until snow is on mountains of thin air despite direct equator sun. There are many ways to Jehovah that are true, and 1000s more that are not true and so not of jehovah. Elders worshipped their kingdom hall when a volcano erupted and they died in it. Those who did not go to the hall following the elders did live, becaus ethe hall was in the valley between ridges and the snow and mud burided them alive. Jehovah did this not Satan. That is jehovah sent the mud to kill them, and yet understand that jehovah was not chasing them with intent to kill them. In this way Satan killed them by being in the hearts of elders to lead with lies, and in the hearts of blind people following blind elders. Yes Satan in them killed them, because Jehovah the mudslide killed them and not those who really knew jehovah by not going into a hall that will become a mudslide tomb. Rarely is it to be said jehovah will save us miraculously, we just do not know how. WHY can this be said for sure. Because few heed the fact that the funnel cloud that is written parted the Red Sea was there the whole day. THEY followe dthis cloud from Egypt to the Red Sea, and so this cloud had that power to part it. They were already following a unique weather occurance. THE MOVIE by Cecil B.DeMille is false. The cloud did not come down as if to say Here I am to save the day. THEY followed that cloud days ahead of time with faith (faith by Moses while others said why do we follow this stupid cloud, its turned around back to Egypt and now trapped us against the sea). IN this way, that mudslide burying the kingdom hall could have saved ALL JWs had the enemy been told go meet us there, wait for us inside, we'll join you, we're coming. Study the science of conquering Canaan and you will see science was applied in all cases, and the liar says it was not.
ELIJAH

Recent dicoveries unveiled to me = did you know that some writings (Jasher) say Abram dwelt with Noah. Is this true? Understand that math science is what allows this. Noah died 350 years after the Flood. If Abram was born in 292 then he could have. But he was born in 352. Likewise extended Genesis (280bc) to conform to Egyptian science (1290bc) and Greek science (778bc) place Abram at Greek year 892 and 942, and Egyptian year 1022 and 1072.
Likewise did Abram meet Shem. Well living when Shen did does not mean he met him. Shem died in year 500 or 502 after the Flood. So again Greek or Egypt Abram did not meet Shem, and they will say Shem is not Melkizedek. BUT the answer is in whether Shem was Melkizedek of Salem. Science proves it this way. If Shem was Melkizedek but died and gave his title to another unknown Melkizedek who builds Salem, then when Abram met that one, he was not meeting Shem other than being Shem's representative successor. However, short true Genesis proves this to be Shem. And that the title was passed to Abram which did not make Abram the king of Salem. Here is how. Shem died 500 after Flood, Nimrod lived 500 and died 600 after Flood. Thus Shem did NOT kill Nimrod, nor did Abram kill Nimrod, in fact Abram defeating AmraPal was not killing him because AmraPal (A Mar-Sin) the son of Sin ruled 9 years and this war was in his 7th year. BUT there was a need that as Shem realized he would die at between 500 and 600 (not 950 like his father Noah, imagine 350 years MORE), Shem realized that wrong bad behavior can outlive the good behavior by a few hundred years when life is taking a 700-year plunge killing both good and bad with this sudden rapid aging (carbon-14 on DNA). So Shem chose Abram. The prove is Jewish Demetrius whose year 1200 for the death of Salem's Melkizedek is 1843bc. It is a merge of a Melkizedek who is Abram, and a melkizedek who is Nimrod. Abram died in 1843bc, but Demetrius thinks this is Salem's Melkizedek dying and he places Abram as dying in 1798bc (330 years before a 1468bc Exodus he sends straight to conquer Jerusalem not realizing 40 years wandering and 5 to conquer). The other Melkizedek Nimrod is year 1200. Noah's 1200 is 600 before Flood (2970-2370bc) and 600 after to Nimrod's death in 1770bc. This is instead mistaken as Noah's 1200 from Flood 3043bc to death of Salem Melkizedek in 1843bc. Thus both Abram and Nimrod were melkizedeks after Shem's death, but Shem wanted to divert the title away from Nimrod by publicly anointing Abram at Salem to look to him as the world's king of righteousness in BEHAVIOR, not making laws or ruling or commanding people.
EVERYTHING IS CALCULABLE, the past, the future. The true past cannot be changed, the future can be predicted, and come true, or even be changed.
Elijahovah
2015-10-16 13:31:28 UTC
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when i said the son who leads the world, i meant reference to choosing Esau the liar saying sure you can have my birthright at 16 and then at 77 doesnt consider it a valid promise. I was not referring to Jacob as the son or leader of the world lying to get it (what is owed him), he didnt steal it. BUT Esau did break his foolish agreement to sell it thinking his brother was stupid in regards laws of birth rights, so be then go ahead stupid jacob and con jacob out of his soup with a flase lie that youre selling him your rights.
Elijahovah
2015-10-17 12:59:34 UTC
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On the up side i have just deciphered another name proving that Messiah is not the anointed of God but rather he is Shiloh thus Jesus chose John the Baptizer to be both messiah and shiloh. Now your first reaction if you think like demons is to say what shocking speech and walk away, just as you dont like knowing you devour flesh and blood of everyone you kill in your attempt to give yourself the better life or feel youre with God. BUT i say to you that Jesus asked a question he never answered. He said how is it the son of David is David's LORD if the son is always less than his father, less than David. When will they ever see someone greater than David if David is always greater than any son of his. He couldnt say this of Moses because the son of Moses became nothing. Everything was about Aaron's sons until king Saul, because the priests purpose was to teach people who to worship Jehovah as king, not any man, nor any son.

So now how does Shiloh choose the anointed of God if Shiloh is the Messiah. How does the Messiah choose the anointed of God if the Messiah is Shiloh. The riddle is in perspective. It is the person who anoints and pours the oil, not the one being chosen. Shelah chose Reu the son of Peleg. Shelah is Shiloh. BUT Ur was destroyed when Shelah died because Ur-Nammu and his son Shulgi and their son AmarPal were corrupt all the way thru Shu-Sin and Ibbi-Sin. They were kings of Sin. In fact Amar-Sin means The Son of Sin. This is why Abram's father sent him to Shem Melkizedek to both obtain righteousness from Shem, and to give to Shem righteous knowledge that his family had likewise learned in Ur, but that city didn't want it. The taking of knowledge from Ur to Salem is like that if taking it from Jew to Christian. Leaving the rejected and giving to the ones who ask to worship Jehovah (what proves to be). The Jews had become schooled Greeks. And you fake Christians have become schooled by lies too.

So does Shiloh choose the Messiah? NO. because Shiloh is the Messiah, and the Messiah is Shiloh. Jesus never said to his apostles any direct answers not because he wanted them to probe to prove their desire to know and worth to hear it, but because he knew that perspective is always the decision of what is truth or lie. Like the name Shiloh, the name messiah refers to the one doing the anointing. In the king names of Ur and of Ereck the Mesh is always the father king not the son who gets anointed. The father anoints the son. Mesh.Anepada or Mes.Anepada is the founder of Ur. He is not its king. He anoints his son A.Anepada to be the king for him. The son ruling the son's elders to make them obey the father. But the son is not called Mesh Yah the anointed of Yah, it is the father who is called Mesh Yah the anointer for Yah. The father anoints his son to lead in ruling others in the ways of Yah, the ways of what proves true, has success, comes true, and does this for his father the founder of the city. Thus we find that Chinese king YU the son of Xia, is our Genesis REU the son of Peleg; they are Peleg Mes.Anepada who anoints his son Reu A.Anepada to be the first human king. Thus Peleg is the Messiah, he is Peleg Messiah, not Reu Messiah, because Reu is the anointed one, and Peleg is the anointer. However, here is where Shiloh (Peleg's grandpa or GREAT FATHER comes in with his name Shelah). Peleg anointed his son as king at 32 because 26 years ago grandpa Shiloh had blessed him labeling Reu to become a king of his skills. Thus it was said that Shiloh came to town and anointed the king, as if Shiloh is the messiah, the anointer of who will be king. In this way Shiloh and the Messiah are the same person, but neither is the promised one. It is the selector of that promised one. Thus Shiloh and Messiah was cousin John not Jesus. the John who didnt want to anoint Jesus but Jesus says yes you must do this and Jehovah will then speak. This is consistent with the two names in Ur's suicide dated 2030bc by carbon but 2029bc by calendar. Mesh.Kalumdug is the father of A.Kalumdug the son, namely Nahor and grandson Haran who die killing their 68 wives to join Peleg in heaven 365 days after Peleg's death. It is also consistent with Serug the father of Nahor seemingly being Mes.Kiag-Nannar (Mesh.Kiang-Nannar or Mes.Serug-Nannar) in 2127bc to replace his father the first king Reu A.Anepada. This anointing which started at Ur with Reu, is found with first king of Ereck named Mes.Kiag-Gasher following suit by Nimrod to compete with Mes.Anepada Peleg at Ur. What this strongly indicates beyond John being messiah and Shiloh is that if the Christos (Noah who is wrongly given the name Xisuthros the last king before the Flood who then raptured to heaven during the 40 days that Noah inside his ark raptured up to heaven and back down on Mount Ararat...actual tectonic science is 150 days not 40), if that GREEK Christos who is the return of NOAH is said to be Jesus, then for him to be a Shiloh or a Messiah he must anoint someone as king. This shows that jesus is not king alone but that the king must be composite with queen. Yes the son of man is not the composite church wife, but rather the one singular composite couple of king and queen as one. Jesus becomes messiah and shiloh when he comes to town and anoints his bride as the king who will save the earth as their children. Now here it is where Jesus kills 8 billion and he saves 8 billion. because 8 billion who do not obey must die to come to life to become 8 billion who will obey. In this way Noah two saved not 8 people and the whole world we see now from their loins, but Noah also saved all people before the Flood because by saving the 8 he continues the world to the one who can resurrect all people. Thus as Jesus saves all people before his death, so too Noah saved all people before the Flood because without the 8 being saved there would be no future resurrection of humans. Upon resurrection during 1000 years, the people from before the Flood must say thank you Noah just as much as they say thank you Jesus. It is about all those doing their part. jesus is nothing if ALL dies, all angels, all humans, all animals, all stars, all galaxies. It is nothing if saving the son jesus was merely to bring the world back to father and son and kill the rest. All things in creation by jesus for jehovah are being saved, restored. Thus each his part does matter. The bride must love the children or Mordecai is correct, Esther will die either for good (going to the king) or for bad by doing nothing for the children of God. The end result of all creation is in her hand until Armageddon and then those who survive are equally mother to those resurrected. When the kingdom grows, it is because the Christ grows, the mother grows, the children taught become the mother leading in the ways the chrsst leads and all for the father. This is why new earth is the new city. The rebellion after 1000 years is dis-satisfaction of what perfect is and should be for the desire to be free learners destroying things again. Star Trek had many episodes like this while Gene cheated on his wife, he hated religion. he had many episodes where he portrayed God as enforcing worship and that freedom meant love (he must of worn boxers, there's a reason they call it a commando salute).
Elijahovah
2015-10-17 13:19:50 UTC
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Regarding Shelah being Shiloh the one accredited as making kings when Messiah Peleg anointed his son king Reu of Ur. So b usy noting that Judah's firstborn is ER so that his wife Tamar gives birth to Perez the forefather of Boaz then Jesse then David that without a son of ER it goes to the 2nd son Onan, and then dying sonless will go to the 3rd son Shelah. That is to say if Onan has son by Tamar then it belongs to dead brother ER. But if Tamar dies childless, then Onan's own son will have the inheritance. BUT Onan dies, and Shelah is the young boy waiting to do this. NOTE his name is Shelah or Shiloh. Judah himself is expecting Shiloh thru this son, not thru Tamar. He is expecting Messiah thru Shelah (Shiloh) or he wouldnt have named him so. Tamar changed it. She diverted it. And thus Shelah must comply and submit to the promise that firstborn wife will have the son of the blood-line. Judah thus blesses Perez instead of blessing Shelah in preparing the future for Shiloh or for Messiah. This very fact that Shelah is NO longer the promised coming one, that is to say coming to the world via procreative descent to Jesus, it itself proves that the Shiloh or coming person is the one who comes to anoint the chosen one. YES Perez gets the blessing or anointing from uncle Shelah (uncle via father ER), Shelah his half-brother (via father Judah) who reliquishes what would have become his with Tamar childless. It is the same as mother Mary being Tamar, pregnant AFTER John was already born 6 months ago as priest as Shiloh as Messiah. Like Shelah (like Shiloh) the youngest son of Judah, this John knows the right belongs to cousin Jesus (half-brother nephew Perez).
Elijahovah
2015-10-17 13:27:23 UTC
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This is all about ME. The Shiloh the Messiah the cousin John who knows who the legal right belongs to and like Mordecai sees she must act or be replaced, but my position beyond warning her where jehovah is going right now is merely to advertise that anointing of her. In 7 days 7 men will be slaughtered at Bethel the house of God because they must choose whether to be Jesus or Judas or Peter. The remainder of 144,000 will in 7 days be complete even if Jehovah must slaughter the 7 so as to save the last feet of the bride. It is not theri concern whether partakers are 7000 in 2012 or 10,000 in 2013, or 14,000 in 2014. What this does is question how many are already in heaven. Is it 137,000 awaiting 7000? Is it 134,000 awaiting 10,000? or is it 130,000 awaiting 14,000? be assured that when the bride becomes the Lamb, that those who flee were not of that number because the bride will prove her completion with a 40-day presence in flesh like Jesus did while the world says quit saying these pounished criminals are appearing from heaven. YES what proves true will prove true because even if only 7000 die because 7000 fled, the number of 144,000 can only appear if complete before Armageddon asteroid. For this reason she the queen bride MUST BE anointed by Shiloh, by Messiah via someone on earth as was before by cousin John. HOW that will be i dont know because what i write can anoint them even after my death.
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