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About the GB member lies on the stand
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Verooo~
2015-09-03 12:08:33 UTC
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I agree with what Peter Green had to say on Facebook JW recovery group:

"After watching governing body member Geoffrey Jackson on the stand (having been subpoenaed to appear by the Australian Royal commission on institutional child abuse (case number 28)), I find it difficult to comprehend how a man who claims to be a pillar and support for 'Truth' can then under oath (sworn on the NWT) go ahead and tell so many lies.
He was on the stand for over three hours surrounded by a team of lawyers in the wings claiming he didn't know the answer to basic policy questions that any elder would be able to answer.
Blatantly lying about who comes under the authority of the organisation.
He couldn't even recall an instance of a female judge in the bible saying it has always been men "since the time of Adam" (Deborah anyone)...how can a man who claims to be anointed by holy spirit and have the backing of Christ who promised to 'call back to mind all the things' learned not even recall such a basic biblical 'truth'.
The Australian branch overseer behaved in the same appalling manner...and even had to then apologise to the commission for lying when evidence was sent in (the branch manual I think) that called the lies out. How is that a 'good witness' to the world looking on?
The Elders appearing at the commission were quite literally being 'thrown under a bus ' for following branch directives and they themselves unable to recall the most basic of things."

So true.
Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:01:23 UTC
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Well when you follow branch directives instead of the spirit of Jehovah you will be torn in too because it is like NZOT being an apostle and deciding who orde3rs you about now that Jesus is dead. Do you get prdered by Peter, or do you take orders from Jesus knowing he is still alive! Deborah judged pagan men, not the men of her own people. Try to tell an Asutralian that. YOU cannot. They are worse than the British when it comes to ego and pride. Was it a trap like the tax question thrown at Jesus. Sort of. But not without just giving the same answer that Jesus gave. Who is it in the world that believes and practices corproal punishment? It is the governments. Most still do, and all you have to do is say what does your government do for treason. They give corporal punishment as if treason is worse than being raped. Thus let God alone give corporal punishment unless do the nations themselves all think that (and are convinced that) they are God?

Next, a woman judge? Woman can be advisors in this org. They can be asked like Barbara Anderson to write an article or decor a room, so they can be advisors under male judges in listening to rape victims. Why haven't they? Well he wasn't asked why havent they. He was asked do you think you can make this change. Well it seems decor of a hall might have more women asked for advice than the vaginal decorations of a rape victim. It is typial EVERYWHERE that the gnat gets more attention in resolving than the camel. It is like saying women are good for decor not for making greater judgments. Dosen't step on male ego because the current males think they prove themselves not homo if they tag decor as a woman's work which proves men who don't decor are totally men in the pants. Then again why do they have to prove it further by rape! The sexist attitudes at a hall are the same that these men had before becoming JWs. They never rid the ideas your culture gave them. Men who think that all pre-JWs screwed all women while in the armed forces and then stuck marrying just one to make sure they get their daily arse, they then make it sound like all single people are fornicators even when raised ion a hall where innocent children presume the people of the hall are all clean virgins before marriage. Instead most of the baptized married couples were whores from the world putting their tag definition of fornication on single people instead of the Bible's definition which unless a single person literally screws a 2nd and 3rd and 4th person, the Bible does NOT claim los of virginity is whoredom. The BIble very clearly indicates that a single losing virginity is not whoredom because it is only one person you had sex with. It says marry with no divorce allowed. All indications of stoning are of promised (married) virgins which makes it adultery and a man's woman being stolen by another man. IT IS NOT THE ENGAGED MAN HIMSELF that is regarded as raping the woman, or making her a whore. Yet at halls they defy this of Jehovah, and even show contrary opposite definings of the scriptures used regarding it. THEY DONT deeply study the facts. Such as the new article on Joseph in Egypt, the families of earth looked forward to having 12 stars (sons), a zodiac to rule over the earth. Thus Joseph had a dream of 11 stars at a time when he only had 10 brothers. The proof is in his mother's death that he was unaware of until told and cried 20 years later. His mother died giving birth to Benjamin which then proves the article is wrong that he could NOT be pondering if he ever sees his brother Benjamin again. If so he would not have had a dream of sun and moon bowing down, and a father who says am i and your mother also going to bow down to you. This shows the dream was a normal dream, not some special dream that says his mother will bow down to him, when she couldnt do so, she was dead. REALITY. The WT needs to learn reality, not dream like the other new small churches still do.
Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:02:17 UTC
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Well when you follow branch directives instead of the spirit of Jehovah you will be torn in too because it is like NOT being an apostle and deciding who orders you about now that Jesus is dead. Do you get prdered by Peter, or do you take orders from Jesus knowing he is still alive! Deborah judged pagan men, not the men of her own people. Try to tell an Asutralian that. YOU cannot. They are worse than the British when it comes to ego and pride. Was it a trap like the tax question thrown at Jesus. Sort of. But not without just giving the same answer that Jesus gave. Who is it in the world that believes and practices corproal punishment? It is the governments. Most still do, and all you have to do is say what does your government do for treason. They give corporal punishment as if treason is worse than being raped. Thus let God alone give corporal punishment unless do the nations themselves all think that (and are convinced that) they are God?

Next, a woman judge? Woman can be advisors in this org. They can be asked like Barbara Anderson to write an article or decor a room, so they can be advisors under male judges in listening to rape victims. Why haven't they? Well he wasn't asked why havent they. He was asked do you think you can make this change. Well it seems decor of a hall might have more women asked for advice than the vaginal decorations of a rape victim. It is typial EVERYWHERE that the gnat gets more attention in resolving than the camel. It is like saying women are good for decor not for making greater judgments. Dosen't step on male ego because the current males think they prove themselves not homo if they tag decor as a woman's work which proves men who don't decor are totally men in the pants. Then again why do they have to prove it further by rape! The sexist attitudes at a hall are the same that these men had before becoming JWs. They never rid the ideas your culture gave them. Men who think that all pre-JWs screwed all women while in the armed forces and then stuck marrying just one to make sure they get their daily arse, they then make it sound like all single people are fornicators even when raised ion a hall where innocent children presume the people of the hall are all clean virgins before marriage. Instead most of the baptized married couples were whores from the world putting their tag definition of fornication on single people instead of the Bible's definition which unless a single person literally screws a 2nd and 3rd and 4th person, the Bible does NOT claim los of virginity is whoredom. The BIble very clearly indicates that a single losing virginity is not whoredom because it is only one person you had sex with. It says marry with no divorce allowed. All indications of stoning are of promised (married) virgins which makes it adultery and a man's woman being stolen by another man. IT IS NOT THE ENGAGED MAN HIMSELF that is regarded as raping the woman, or making her a whore. Yet at halls they defy this of Jehovah, and even show contrary opposite definings of the scriptures used regarding it. THEY DONT deeply study the facts. Such as the new article on Joseph in Egypt, the families of earth looked forward to having 12 stars (sons), a zodiac to rule over the earth. Thus Joseph had a dream of 11 stars at a time when he only had 10 brothers. The proof is in his mother's death that he was unaware of until told and cried 20 years later. His mother died giving birth to Benjamin which then proves the article is wrong that he could NOT be pondering if he ever sees his brother Benjamin again. If so he would not have had a dream of sun and moon bowing down, and a father who says am i and your mother also going to bow down to you. This shows the dream was a normal dream, not some special dream that says his mother will bow down to him, when she couldnt do so, she was dead. REALITY. The WT needs to learn reality, not dream like the other new small churches still do.
Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:03:43 UTC
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Well when you follow branch directives instead of the spirit of Jehovah you will be torn in too because it is like NOT being an apostle and deciding who orders you about now that Jesus is dead. Do you get ordered by Peter, or do you take orders from Jesus knowing he is still alive! Deborah judged pagan men, not the men of her own people. Try to tell an Asutralian that. YOU cannot. They are worse than the British when it comes to ego and pride. Was it a trap like the tax question thrown at Jesus. Sort of. But not without just giving the same answer that Jesus gave. Who is it in the world that believes and practices corproal punishment? It is the governments. Most still do, and all you have to do is say what does your government do for treason. They give corporal punishment as if treason is worse than being raped. Thus let God alone give corporal punishment unless do the nations themselves all think that (and are convinced that) they are God?

Next, a woman judge? Woman can be advisors in this org. They can be asked like Barbara Anderson to write an article or decor a room, so they can be advisors under male judges in listening to rape victims. Why haven't they? Well he wasn't asked why havent they. He was asked do you think you can make this change. Well it seems decor of a hall might have more women asked for advice than the vaginal decorations of a rape victim. It is typial EVERYWHERE that the gnat gets more attention in resolving than the camel. It is like saying women are good for decor not for making greater judgments. Dosen't step on male ego because the current males think they prove themselves not homo if they tag decor as a woman's work which proves men who don't decor are totally men in the pants. Then again why do they have to prove it further by rape! The sexist attitudes at a hall are the same that these men had before becoming JWs. They never rid the ideas your culture gave them. Men who think that all pre-JWs screwed all women while in the armed forces and then stuck marrying just one to make sure they get their daily arse, they then make it sound like all single people are fornicators even when raised ion a hall where innocent children presume the people of the hall are all clean virgins before marriage. Instead most of the baptized married couples were whores from the world putting their tag definition of fornication on single people instead of the Bible's definition which unless a single person literally screws a 2nd and 3rd and 4th person, the Bible does NOT claim los of virginity is whoredom. The BIble very clearly indicates that a single losing virginity is not whoredom because it is only one person you had sex with. It says marry with no divorce allowed. All indications of stoning are of promised (married) virgins which makes it adultery and a man's woman being stolen by another man. IT IS NOT THE ENGAGED MAN HIMSELF that is regarded as raping the woman, or making her a whore. Yet at halls they defy this of Jehovah, and even show contrary opposite definings of the scriptures used regarding it. THEY DONT deeply study the facts. Such as the new article on Joseph in Egypt, the families of earth looked forward to having 12 stars (sons), a zodiac to rule over the earth. Thus Joseph had a dream of 11 stars at a time when he only had 10 brothers. The proof is in his mother's death that he was unaware of until told and cried 20 years later. His mother died giving birth to Benjamin which then proves the article is wrong that he could NOT be pondering if he ever sees his brother Benjamin again. If so he would not have had a dream of sun and moon bowing down, and a father who says am i and your mother also going to bow down to you. This shows the dream was a normal dream, not some special dream that says his mother will bow down to him, when she couldnt do so, she was dead. REALITY. The WT needs to learn reality, not dream like the other new small churches still do.
Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:10:58 UTC
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Well when you follow branch directives instead of the spirit of Jehovah you will be torn in too because it is like NOT being an apostle and deciding who orders you about now that Jesus is dead. Do you get ordered by Peter, or do you take orders from Jesus knowing he is still alive! Deborah judged pagan men, not the men of her own people. Try to tell an Asutralian that. YOU cannot. They are worse than the British when it comes to ego and pride. Was it a trap like the tax question thrown at Jesus. Sort of. But not without just giving the same answer that Jesus gave. Who is it in the world that believes and practices corporal punishment? It is the governments. Most still do, and all you have to do is say what does your government do for treason. They give corporal punishment as if treason is worse than being raped. Thus let God alone give corporal punishment unless do the nations themselves all think that (and are convinced that) they are God?

Next, a woman judge? Woman can be advisors in this org. They can be asked like Barbara Anderson to write an article or decor a room, so they can be advisors under male judges in listening to rape victims. Why haven't they? Well he wasn't asked why havent they. He was asked do you think you can make this change. Well it seems decor of a hall might have more women asked for advice than the vaginal decorations of a rape victim. It is typial EVERYWHERE that the gnat gets more attention in resolving than the camel. It is like saying women are good for decor not for making greater judgments. Doesn't step on male ego, because the current males think they prove themselves not homo, if they tag decor as a woman's work, which proves men who don't decor are totally men in the pants. Then again why do they have to prove it further by rape! The sexist attitudes at a hall are the same that these men had before becoming JWs. They never rid the ideas your culture gave them. Men who think that all pre-JWs have screwed all women while in the armed forces, and then stuck marrying just one to make sure they get their daily arse, they then make it sound like all single people are fornicators even when raised in a hall where innocent children presume the people of the hall are all clean virgins before marriage. Instead most of the baptized married couples were whores from the world putting their tag definition of fornication on single people instead of the Bible's definition which unless a single person literally screws a 2nd and 3rd and 4th person, the Bible does NOT claim loss of virginity is whoredom. The Bible very clearly indicates that a single losing virginity is not whoredom because it is only one person you had sex with. It says marry with no divorce allowed. YET JW halls (their elders) stone these women to death, and break up their marriage engagement promise saying you are not forgiven by Jehovah if you don't dump the fiance youre bound to but lost virginity to. In this way they have made these people as whores by saying marry someone else in the hall now, with all knowing your fiance touched you. All indications of Bible stoning are of promised (married) virgins which makes it adultery and thus a man's woman being stolen by another man. IT IS NOT THE ENGAGED MAN HIMSELF that is regarded as raping the woman, or making her a whore. Yet at halls they defy this of Jehovah, and even show contrary opposite definings of the scriptures used regarding it. THEY DONT deeply study the facts. Such as the new article on Joseph in Egypt, the families of earth looked forward to having 12 stars (sons), a zodiac to rule over the earth. Thus Joseph had a dream of 11 stars at a time when he only had 10 brothers. The proof is in his mother's death that he was unaware of until told and cried 20 years later. His mother died giving birth to Benjamin which then proves the article is wrong that he could NOT be pondering if he ever sees his brother Benjamin again. If so he would not have had a dream of sun and moon bowing down, and a father who says am i and your mother also going to bow down to you. This shows the dream was a normal dream, not some special dream that says his mother will bow down to him, when she couldnt do so, she was dead. REALITY. The WT needs to learn reality, not dream like the other new small churches still do.
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Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:13:16 UTC
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Well when you follow branch directives instead of the spirit of Jehovah you will be torn in too because it is like NOT being an apostle and deciding who orders you about now that Jesus is dead. Do you get ordered by Peter, or do you take orders from Jesus knowing he is still alive! Deborah judged pagan men, not the men of her own people. Try to tell an Australian that. YOU cannot. They are worse than the British when it comes to ego and pride. Was it a trap like the tax question thrown at Jesus. Sort of. But not without just giving the same answer that Jesus gave. Who is it in the world that believes and practices corporal punishment? It is the governments. Most still do, and all you have to do is say what does your government do for treason. They give corporal punishment as if treason is worse than being raped. Thus let God alone give corporal punishment unless do the nations themselves all think that (and are convinced that) they are God?

Next, a woman judge? Woman can be advisors in this org. They can be asked like Barbara Anderson to write an article or decor a room, so they can be advisors under male judges in listening to rape victims. Why haven't they? Well he wasn't asked why havent they. He was asked do you think you can make this change. Well it seems decor of a hall might have more women asked for advice than the vaginal decorations of a rape victim. It is typial EVERYWHERE that the gnat gets more attention in resolving than the camel. It is like saying women are good for decor not for making greater judgments. Doesn't step on male ego, because the current males think they prove themselves not homo, if they tag decor as a woman's work, which proves men who don't decor are totally men in the pants. Then again why do they have to prove it further by rape! The sexist attitudes at a hall are the same that these men had before becoming JWs. They never rid the ideas your culture gave them. Men who think that all pre-JWs have screwed all women while in the armed forces, and then stuck marrying just one to make sure they get their daily arse, they then make it sound like all single people are fornicators even when raised in a hall where innocent children presume the people of the hall are all clean virgins before marriage. Instead most of the baptized married couples were whores from the world putting their tag definition of fornication on single people instead of the Bible's definition which unless a single person literally screws a 2nd and 3rd and 4th person, the Bible does NOT claim loss of virginity is whoredom. The Bible very clearly indicates that a single losing virginity is not whoredom because it is only one person you had sex with. It says marry with no divorce allowed. YET JW halls (their elders) stone these women to death, and break up their marriage engagement promise saying you are not forgiven by Jehovah if you don't dump the fiance youre bound to but lost virginity to. In this way they have made these people as whores by saying marry someone else in the hall now, with all knowing your fiance touched you. All indications of Bible stoning are of promised (married) virgins which makes it adultery and thus a man's woman being stolen by another man. IT IS NOT THE ENGAGED MAN HIMSELF that is regarded as raping the woman, or making her a whore. Yet at halls they defy this of Jehovah, and even show contrary opposite definings of the scriptures used regarding it. THEY DONT deeply study the facts. Such as the new article on Joseph in Egypt, the families of earth looked forward to having 12 stars (sons), a zodiac to rule over the earth. Thus Joseph had a dream of 11 stars at a time when he only had 10 brothers. The proof is in his mother's death that he was unaware of until told and cried 20 years later. His mother died giving birth to Benjamin which then proves the article is wrong that he could NOT be pondering if he ever sees his brother Benjamin again. If so he would not have had a dream of sun and moon bowing down, and a father who says am i and your mother also going to bow down to you. This shows the dream was a normal dream, not some special dream that says his mother will bow down to him, when she couldnt do so, she was dead. REALITY. The WT needs to learn reality, not dream like the other new small churches still do.
Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:25:56 UTC
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He wasn't trying to lie. He was in a state of subconscious fear trying to be ahead of questions his mind were convinced were intended to be trick questions. BUT elders do this to rape victims too, they throw trick questions. I was told not to talk to sisters at all. That talking to them is denial of one's sexual impulses to screw them committing fornication. AND then i was asked if i do like women. These men got old enough that whentheir wives died, they were all the first to go screw someone else's wife. One even went to Jamaica and lied to a sister saying he was baptized when he was still disfellowshipped with a desperation to find a wife. These are not demon JWs, these are demons who become JWs and no one ever changed them into men of God.

So in fear of the commission he let his fear try to run ahead of questions which merely confused himself in how his answers would be perceived. SAD indeed. Should that not prove that the 12 apostles were not picked to rule over the rest of the 144,000 just as the 7 on the GB do not rule them, (those in heaven and those on earth). Perhaps they dont see themselves as ruling without those in heaven, but rather guided by these saints alredy there and already ruling THRU THEM. But then HOW can they rule the rest ofthe saints who havent gotten there yet? Clearly the rule has not yet started by anyone but Jesus only. And Jesus is NOT going to rule thru just 7 of the 144,000.

In a world where ALL people of your nation and my nation abused everyone in 1950 and 1960, it is sad that you have to make JWs accountable and not the non-JWs. Get some current victims dudes.
Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:27:19 UTC
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Well when you follow branch directives instead of the spirit of Jehovah you will be torn in two because it is like NOT being an apostle and deciding who orders you about now that Jesus is dead. Do you get ordered by Peter, or do you take orders from Jesus knowing he is still alive! Deborah judged pagan men, not the men of her own people. Try to tell an Australian that. YOU cannot. They are worse than the British when it comes to ego and pride. Was it a trap like the tax question thrown at Jesus. Sort of. But not without just giving the same answer that Jesus gave. Who is it in the world that believes and practices corporal punishment? It is the governments. Most still do, and all you have to do is say what does your government do for treason. They give corporal punishment as if treason is worse than being raped. Thus let God alone give corporal punishment unless do the nations themselves all think that (and are convinced that) they are God?

Next, a woman judge? Woman can be advisors in this org. They can be asked like Barbara Anderson to write an article or decor a room, so they can be advisors under male judges in listening to rape victims. Why haven't they? Well he wasn't asked why havent they. He was asked do you think you can make this change. Well it seems decor of a hall might have more women asked for advice than the vaginal decorations of a rape victim. It is typial EVERYWHERE that the gnat gets more attention in resolving than the camel. It is like saying women are good for decor not for making greater judgments. Doesn't step on male ego, because the current males think they prove themselves not homo, if they tag decor as a woman's work, which proves men who don't decor are totally men in the pants. Then again why do they have to prove it further by rape! The sexist attitudes at a hall are the same that these men had before becoming JWs. They never rid the ideas your culture gave them. Men who think that all pre-JWs have screwed all women while in the armed forces, and then stuck marrying just one to make sure they get their daily arse, they then make it sound like all single people are fornicators even when raised in a hall where innocent children presume the people of the hall are all clean virgins before marriage. Instead most of the baptized married couples were whores from the world putting their tag definition of fornication on single people instead of the Bible's definition which unless a single person literally screws a 2nd and 3rd and 4th person, the Bible does NOT claim loss of virginity is whoredom. The Bible very clearly indicates that a single losing virginity is not whoredom because it is only one person you had sex with. It says marry with no divorce allowed. YET JW halls (their elders) stone these women to death, and break up their marriage engagement promise saying you are not forgiven by Jehovah if you don't dump the fiance youre bound to but lost virginity to. In this way they have made these people as whores by saying marry someone else in the hall now, with all knowing your fiance touched you. All indications of Bible stoning are of promised (married) virgins which makes it adultery and thus a man's woman being stolen by another man. IT IS NOT THE ENGAGED MAN HIMSELF that is regarded as raping the woman, or making her a whore. Yet at halls they defy this of Jehovah, and even show contrary opposite definings of the scriptures used regarding it. THEY DONT deeply study the facts. Such as the new article on Joseph in Egypt, the families of earth looked forward to having 12 stars (sons), a zodiac to rule over the earth. Thus Joseph had a dream of 11 stars at a time when he only had 10 brothers. The proof is in his mother's death that he was unaware of until told and cried 20 years later. His mother died giving birth to Benjamin which then proves the article is wrong that he could NOT be pondering if he ever sees his brother Benjamin again. If so he would not have had a dream of sun and moon bowing down, and a father who says am i and your mother also going to bow down to you. This shows the dream was a normal dream, not some special dream that says his mother will bow down to him, when she couldnt do so, she was dead. REALITY. The WT needs to learn reality, not dream like the other new small churches still do.
Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:33:00 UTC
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He wasn't trying to lie. He was in a state of subconscious fear trying to be ahead of questions his mind were convinced were intended to be trick questions. BUT elders do this to rape victims too, they throw trick questions. I was told not to talk to sisters at all. That talking to them is denial of one's sexual impulses to screw them committing fornication. AND then i was asked if i do like women. I would call that a trick question to make me guilty with either answers. These men got old enough that when their wives died, they were all the first to go screw someone else's wife. One even went to Jamaica and lied to a sister saying he was baptized when he was still disfellowshipped with a desperation to find a wife. These are not demon JWs, these are demons who become JWs and no one ever changed them into men of God.

So in fear of the commission he let his fear try to run ahead of questions which merely confused himself in how his answers would be perceived. SAD indeed. Should that not prove that the 12 apostles were not picked to rule over the rest of the 144,000 just as the 7 on the GB do not rule them, (those in heaven and those on earth). Perhaps they dont see themselves as ruling without those in heaven, but rather guided by these saints already there and already ruling THRU THEM. But then HOW can they rule the rest of the saints who havent gotten there yet? Clearly the rule has not yet started by anyone but Jesus only. And Jesus is NOT going to rule thru just 7 of the 144,000.

In a world where ALL people of your nation and my nation abused everyone in 1950 and 1960, it is sad that you have to make JWs accountable and not the non-JWs. Get some current victims dudes.
Verooo~
2015-09-05 13:37:05 UTC
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He was trying to lie. After the GB leader was asked if a JW or a fading JW was seen to have a christmas tree if he would be put under a judicial committee or be disfellowshipped, the old fuck said "That's not my understanding". Lying bastard.

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Elijahovah
2015-09-06 13:09:04 UTC
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No not so. If they hate you because they enjoy raping you, they do that for the Cristmas tree, if they don't hate you, they let it slide and tell you leave it be, leave it alone. (Just like my Automobile union steward who said the offender is black and i am white, and the offender is a woman, and i am a man, who everyone thinks is gay anyways so she can make public cracks about things up my arse. Demons rule. Human demons rule.) I was always in the back room, and NOT baptized so where are their rights to be that way to me. Where is the membership signature line. (They require one for marriage to a human, why not for marriage to Jesus. Is he a whore?) My grandpa had the city's first WT study group in his home until Catholic grandma got rid of them by telling grandpa one of the two was making advances. So Peterson's came along and they became the congregation founders. In 60 years, while i was 22 and two sisters were pioneers who would clean her house, this old woman jept a 12 inch jeweled family heir loom cross in the dresser drawer for its value. The pioneer sisters knew it, and the elders told me leave it alone. Her husband was always being honored as founder and yet he did not go door-to-door all because of one bad incident which stopped him permanently from ever wanting to go again. Yet if i went door-to-door and didn't count hours so I could feel LOVE toward brother, not wages from the savior, these same elders would claim i was defying the FDS. Simply, they claim what they want excusing who they want whihle killing who they want. Joseph gets killed by brothers and then they demand he rid his pagan egyptian priestess wife and dump his children. This is why Joseph had to use the government courts to get his father to Egypt. He arrested his brother on false charges just as they had done to him. Brothers do not listen, they have to be forced by Jehovah. And at times it requires the Persian government to build that temple because brothers are bastards. Bible says so, Bible proves so. Esau's blessing must be prevented just like Conti must use court to prevent blessing the Judas at the WT. The sue, the cash, the money, hurts Judas at the WT, it doesnt hurt the Jesus there.
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He was trying to lie. After the GB leader was asked if a JW or a fading JW was seen to have a christmas tree if he would be put under a judicial committee or be disfellowshipped, the old fuck said "That's not my understanding". Lying bastard.
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Elijahovah
2015-09-06 13:13:00 UTC
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So he would be correct to say that's not his understanding because they oust who they want, and let slide who they want. How else could a pedaphile continue. YOU have two issues. The DF of pedaphile victims if they talk and expose their experience, and NOT DFing the pedaphile. Courts do the same, attack innocent people accusing them, yet let other criminals go.

On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 8:37:06 AM UTC-5, Verooo~ wrote: > He was trying to lie. After the GB leader was asked if a JW or a fading JW was seen to have a christmas tree if he would be put under a judicial committee or be disfellowshipped, the old fuck said "That's not my understanding". Lying bastard. > V
Verooo~
2015-09-05 13:39:18 UTC
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He was trying to lie. After the GB leader was asked if a JW or a fading JW was seen to have a christmas tree if he would be put under a judicial committee or be disfellowshipped, the old fuck said "That's not my understanding". Lying bastard
Elijahovah
2015-09-04 13:59:49 UTC
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Jupiter's 36 orbits in 427 years ( was not a lame sacrifice to Jehovah )

In 48 years from 1991-1943bc (age 27 to 75) Abram under the rule of king Shulgi of Ur used math and observation of Jupiter to prove Jupiter had advance forward from 432 calendar years into 433 calendar years which made the twelve zodiac names of years incorrect. Shulgi's concern was business politics to keep citizens living at Ur; this included using idols to keep them busy. One of the greatest risks was the discovery of methane in bullcrap for cooking, but at the risk of death from cow ecoli bacteria in the food. So Abram began to call him king Dungi. Dealing with this system of organization was bullcrap. It did not worship Jehovah, not even properly observe Jova (the planet Jupiter).
The number of days in 427 Julian years are 155,962 days which makes each orbit average 4332 1/4 days. That is to say 4332 days per orbit, but every 4th orbit 4333 days. The span of 12 Julian years are 4383 days which is 50 3/4 days beyond this orbit. Thus the dates are as follows from the Julian date of asteroid impact causing Noah's Flood in 2370bc on Nov 20 (Noah's 2-10-600):



Astral impact to Yucatan requiring immediate packing of ark. Tectonic meltdown and lift of ocean floors begins.

Noah's Adam's
0 2370bc Nov 20 2-10- 600 = 1656am
1 2358bc Sep 30 2-22- 612 = 1668am
2 2346bc Aug 10 3-04- 624 = 1680am
3 2334bc June 20 3-16- 636 = 1692am
4 2322bc May 1 3-29- 648 = 1704am
5 2310bc Mar 11 4-11- 660 = 1716am
6 2298bc Jan 19 4-23- 672 = 1728am
7 2287bc Nov 30 5-05- 684 = 1740am
8 2275bc Oct 10 5-18- 696 = 1752am
9 2263bc Aug 20 5-30- 708 = 1764am
10 2251bc Jun 30 6-12- 720 = 1776am
11 2239bc May 11 6-24- 732 = 1788am
12 2227bc Mar 21 7-07- 744 = 1800am
13 2215bc Jan 29 7-19- 756 = 1812am
14 2204bc Dec 9 8-01- 768 = 1824am
15 2192bc Oct 20 8-13- 780 = 1836am
16 2180bc Aug 30 8-26- 792 = 1848am
17 2168bc July 10 9-08- 804 = 1860am
18 2156bc May 21 9-20- 816 = 1872am
19 2144bc Mar 31 10-02- 828 = 1884am
20 2132bc Feb 8 10-15- 840 = 1896am
21 2121bc Dec 19 10-27- 852 = 1908am
22 2109bc Oct 30 11-09- 864 = 1920am
23 2097bc Sep 9 11-21- 876 = 1932am
24 2085bc July 20 12-04- 888 = 1944am
25 2073bc May 30 12-16- 900 = 1956am
26 2061bc Apr 10 12-28- 912 = 1968am
27 2049bc Feb 19 1-10- 925 = 1981am
28 2037bc Dec 30 1-23- 937 = 1993am
29 2026bc Nov 9 2-05- 949 = 2005am
30 2014bc Sep 20 2-17- 961 = 2017am
31 2002bc July 31 2-29- 973 = 2029am Abram 16
32 1990bc Jun 10 3-12- 985 = 2041am Abram 28
33 1978bc Apr 21 3-24- 997 = 2053am Abram 40
34 1966bc Mar 1 4-06-1009 = 2065am Abram 52
35 1954bc Jan 9 4-18-1021 = 2077am Abram 64
36 1943bc Nov 20 5-01-1033 = 2089am Abram 75

1514bc Apr 21 1-01-1468 = 2524am year of plagues
1513bc Apr 15 1-01-1469 = 2525am = lunar Nisan 15
480 Julian = 487x 360 day
1034bc Apr 15 12-25-1954 = 3010am = lunar Ziv 1
0 1034bc Apr 21 1-01-1955 = 3011am = lunar Ziv 7
1 1022bc Mar 1 1-13-1967 = 3023am
2 1010bc Jan 9 1-25-1979 = 3035am
3 999bc Nov 20 2-07-1991 = 3047am
4 987bc Sep 30 2-20-2003 = 3059am
5 975bc Aug 10 3-02-2015 = 3071am
6 963bc Jun 20 3-14-2027 = 3083am
7 951bc May 1 3-26-2039 = 3095am
8 939bc Mar 11 4-09-2051 = 3107am
9 927bc Jan 19 4-21-2063 = 3119am
10 916bc Nov 30 5-03-2075 = 3131am
11 904bc Oct 10 5-15-2087 = 3143am
12 892bc Aug 20 5-28-2099 = 3155am
13 880bc Jun 30 6-10-2111 = 3167am
14 868bc May 11 6-22-2123 = 3179am
15 856bc Mar 21 7-04-2135 = 3191am
16 844bc Jan 29 7-17-2147 = 3203am
17 833bc Dec 9 7-29-2159 = 3215am
18 821bc Oct 20 8-11-2171 = 3227am
19 809bc Aug 30 8-23-2183 = 3239am
20 797bc July 10 9-06-2195 = 3251am
21 785bc May 21 9-18-2207 = 3263am
22 773bc Mar 31 9-30-2219 = 3275am
23 761bc Feb 9 10-12-2231 = 3287am
24 750bc Dec 20 10-25-2243 = 3299am
25 738bc Oct 31 11-07-2255 = 3311am
26 726bc Sep 10 11-19-2267 = 3323am
27 714bc July 21 12-01-2279 = 3335am
28 702bc May 31 12-14-2291 = 3347am
29 690bc Apr 11 12-26-2303 = 3359am
30 678bc Feb 19 1-08-2315 = 3371am
31 667bc Dec 30 1-20-2327 = 3383am
32 655bc Nov 9 2-03-2339 = 3395am
33 643bc Sep 20 2-15-2351 = 3407am
34 631bc July 31 2-27-2363 = 3419am
35 619bc Jun 10 3-09-2375 = 3431am
36 607bc Apr 21 3-22-2387 = 3443am


36 orbits in 360-day calendar by idiot simpletons demands the 12-year calendar of Jupiter in 432 years to be Year 1032. But Abram understood the advancing dates. Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem was then destroyed in the same 427 years from 1034-607bc, but secular scholars praise this study as made by Babylon 747-320bc and noted by Greeks 740-313bc and recorded on cuneiform tablets. We should note then that Abram was not only ignored until 1200 years later, but also by king Shulgi of Ur and his son AmarPal and then ignored by Pharaoh (or praised by Pharaoh and welcomed into the House but not really understood). He is instead honored only by Shem Melkizedek at Salem and learns that those who think they are organizationally wise have ego above true knowledge. It is not about Salem or Shem as better than Pharaoh and Ur, but about the heart listening to the message.
EVERYTHING CAN BE CALCULATED (does anyone try?)
Elijahovah
2015-09-06 13:30:01 UTC
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The churches lie like a daughter whore (evangelical, Pentecostal, baptist) accusing the mother whore (Catholic, Protest, Orthodox) of being whore via Christmas as Jesus birth or as Nimrod birth /or death. BUT they are both whores and so is the WT with them because Christmas is the death of Noah as Savior honored like honoring the death of Jesus as Savior. Noah was claimed as gone to heaven in 40 days. Persian Zoroaster Christmas is 40 days after Greek December Christmas. The green tree is Noah not Nimrod, Noah died on Dec 25, Nimrod died on April 22. The confusion is from Noah's death is also Mesore 15 (6-16 that became 12-15) and Nimrod's death is Mekir 15 (12-15 that became 6-15). The Bacchus idol hung onthe tree is the mockery of Noah. Ba in Egyptian means spirit, and Cush is Nimrod's father. So spirit of Cush presumes the drunk with grapes and erection is condoning this behavior as if Nimrod. BUT Moses does not say in Genesis that Nimrod got drunk and naked. He says Noah did and that Ham and Canaan (and Cush and Mizraim and Put) got blamed for laughing that your son would touch your father's nakedness. And so the tree is Noah, but Hamites would mock it with an diol of Noah hung on it, the Bacchus. This is also proven by Pan the goat. Pan is the symbol of Capricorn rising on day 40 of the Flood, it is Noah. Satyr is Saturn the goat, planet in Capricorn horns when 40-day Flood ends; and so the goat Saturn in the goat Capricorn. All Noah, not Nimrod. Nimrod was not alive on the ark. And when Noah died, though Nimrod was 250, most chronologies place Nimrod born 100 years after Noah's death instead of Noah's Flood because they desperately wish tio expose the truth that Christmas is Noah not Nimrod. SO the big question is this then. WHY does the WT crawel into bed to screw away with the daughter whores of Christendom, so as to dirty their mother the whore Orthodox Catholic Protest ? HOw quick can they change? would they? or are they indeed bastards sharing in paganism.
Elijahovah
2015-09-06 13:37:39 UTC
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The churches lie like a daughter whore (evangelical, Pentecostal, baptist) accusing the mother whore (Catholic, Protest, Orthodox) of being whore via Christmas as Jesus birth or as Nimrod birth /or death. BUT they are both whores and so is the WT with them because Christmas is the death of Noah as Savior honored like honoring the death of Jesus as Savior. Noah was claimed as gone to heaven in 40 days. Persian Zoroaster Christmas is 40 days after Greek December Christmas. The green tree is Noah not Nimrod, Noah died on Dec 25, Nimrod died on April 22. The confusion is from Noah's death is also Mesore 15 (6-15 that became 12-15) and Nimrod's death is Mekir 15 (12-15 that became 6-15). The Bacchus idol hung on the tree is the mockery of Noah. Ba in Egyptian means spirit, and Cush is Nimrod's father. So spirit of Cush presumes the drunk with grapes and erection is condoning this behavior as if Nimrod. BUT Moses does not say in Genesis that Nimrod got drunk and naked. He says Noah did this, and that Ham and Canaan (and Cush and Mizraim and Put) got blamed for laughing that your son would touch your father's nakedness. And so the tree is Noah, but Hamites would mock it with an diol of Noah hung on it, the Bacchus. This is also proven by Pan the goat. (another symbol, the goat, claimed again as Satan or as Nimrod). But Pan is the symbol of Capricorn rising on day 40 of the Flood, it is Noah. Satyr is Saturn the goat, the planet in Capricorn horns when 40-day Flood ends; and so the goat Saturn. in the goat stars Capricorn. All Noah, not Nimrod. Nimrod was not alive on the ark. And when Noah died, though Nimrod was 250, most chronologies place Nimrod born 100 years after Noah's death instead of 100 after Noah's Flood because they desperately wished to expose the truth that Christmas is Noah, not Nimrod. SO the big question is this then. WHY does the WT crawel into bed to screw away with the daughter whores of Christendom, so as to dirty their mother the whore Orthodox Catholic Protest ? HOW quick can they change? would they? or are they indeed bastards sharing in paganism.
Elijahovah
2015-09-06 13:40:05 UTC
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Jesus stated it quite well. THE TRUTH is hated. The WT translates this as we the WT are the truth, and they hate us. They never say we the WT hate truth. Yet they do hate truth when in WT they kill the many people who are just like Jesus going into WT trial (Sanhedrin) to be killed for what they have learned and refuse to be silenced in.
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